Freezing motion in low light?

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Ken Piros Ken Piros   Post 1 of 10
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Is it possible to use a fast enough shutter speed to freeze motion under low light conditions and get less noise?
If I re-take this shot again would maxing out the ISO to 1600 have less grain?

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Mike Harvey Mike Harvey Post 2 of 10
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if you can use a 50 f1.8 lens you could drop the iso to about 600-800 would help with the noise some fill flash would help
Daren Borzynski Daren Borzynski Post 3 of 10
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Hi Ken

I would maybe try it with a lower ISO - slower shutter speed & use slow sync flash to capture the bike at this point.

Cheers!!
Daren
Ken Piros Ken Piros   Post 4 of 10
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I didn’t use the flash because I thought I was to far away, about 15 meters, ( I wanted to get the entire building in the shot ) and also because I wanted the biker to be a silhouette against the building. So my next question would be would using fill or Sync flash leave the biker as a silhouette against the building?
Daren Borzynski Daren Borzynski Post 5 of 10
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Using flash wont leave him in silhouette. :-(((

Difficult capture Ken!!

I dont know what way you can capture it... without losing something from the quality.

Hopefully someone else will know!!

Cheers!!
Martin Unger Martin Unger Post 6 of 10
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Hmm, I'm not too familiar with this kind of shots...
Maybe it would be possible to use a slave unit, placed behind the biker? Never tried this myself, but would be interesting... But surely dependend on the equipment you have available.
Otherwise maybe some PS-work? One exposition (with tripod) to catch the silhouette of the biker, one for the building...
But again, I've never tried this myself...
Ken Piros Ken Piros   Post 7 of 10
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Thank you for sharing your ideas on how to improve this shot! I appreciate your help.
Ken
MWPhoto MWPhoto   Post 8 of 10
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Since it is a great shot except for the noise, I will suggest a software solution called "NeatImage". It has a sullied reputation because many people abuse it and use it as an effect rather than simple noise reduction - but it is perfect for this situation where noise is due to high ISO capture. I am not affiliated with the company, I just think it is a good and effective product!
Ken Piros Ken Piros   Post 9 of 10
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Mark, thanks for the tip on Neat Image. I downloaded the free trial version and here are the results.

Bike and Skateboard Park by Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (Filtered) Bike and Skateboa… Ken Piros 18.03.07 1
MWPhoto MWPhoto   Post 10 of 10
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That's a good result, Ken.
I have both pictures up on my screen to compare them - you can really see the improvement in the light from the streetlamp (left edge), the lit area of the sidewalk (lower left corner) and the smaller buildings in the background (right, lower edge).
You didn't lose too much detail ... the ironwork on the railing below the bike is still sharp!
The red lights on the left skyscraper are brighter - that is from the "sharpening" settings on the program.

One tip that you may find useful - if you load the program as a "plug-in" to your editing software, then you can apply the noise filter to just parts of the image. For example, you could select the central figure, cut it out, apply the NeatImage to the rest of the photo to control the night time noise, then re-insert the figure which has not been filtered.

Good job! Happy photo-ing ...
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